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Obama pushes to extend gun background checks through Social Security.

By
DavetheRave

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The Obama administration is pushing to ban Social Security beneficiaries from owning guns if they lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs. A move that could affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others. 1.5 million SS beneficiaries have their finances handled by others for a variety of reasons.

The push is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws regulating who gets reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) which is supposed to prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the country illegally and others.

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The VA is already required to report names under a category in gun control regulations known as “adjudicated as a mental defective.” This terminology derives from decades-old laws. Its only criterion is whether somebody has been appointed a fiduciary.

A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to “marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease.”

There is no simple way to identify that group, but a strategy used by the VA since the creation of the background check system is reporting anyone who has been declared incompetent to manage pension or disability payments and assigned a fiduciary. If Social Security uses the same standard as the VA, millions of its beneficiaries would be affected. About 4.2 million adults receive monthly benefits that are managed by “representative payees.”

Mental health experts and advocates for the disabled say that expanding the list of prohibited gun owners based on financial competence is wrongheaded. This strategy undoubtedly would include numerous people who may just have a bad memory or difficulty balancing a checkbook.

The Social Security Administration has been drafting its policy outside of public view. Social Security would generally report names under the same “mental defective” category.

“Someone can be incapable of managing their funds but not be dangerous, violent or unsafe,” said Dr. Marc Rosen, a Yale psychiatrist who has studied how veterans with mental health problems manage their money. “They are very different determinations.”

Obama vowed to make gun control a central issue of his second term, but the effort fell flat. Congress ultimately rejected his proposals for new gun control legislation. That is not going to stop Obama and his commie buddies from pushing more and stricter gun control laws.

Obama will use executive fiat without blinking an eye, if he can’t get congress to go along. Our veterans are already being unjustly scrutinized of their right to own guns, because of this extraordinarily broad brush. This is just another way to further Obama’s Alinsky policy(s) along with the UN.

Obama, the UN and the Alinsky sheep want to abolish our second amendment right of gun ownership. This is just another step toward their ultimate goal disguised as making citizens safer. Absurd…

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html#page=2

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Comments on: "OBAMA TO USE SOCIAL SECURITY TO BAN GUNS" (39)

  1. Thanks Dave for the info. Obama will not be satisfied until he destroys our country and he can’t do it as long as we are armed to the hilt. I expect him to declare marshal law at some point and then there will be a revolution for sure. His only chance of taking over as Ruler is to disarm us. So it is plain to see his plan is to whittle away at one group at a time to take our guns. I am a senior as well as my friends and we all feel that something terrible is going to happen soon, which for the most part the younger folks are not seeing. Obama is doing everything in his power to create a hateful division between everybody, combined with trying to crash the economy. There so many evil people in power and they will stop at nothing to gain control, including their push for political correctness that is being forced upon us, which I feel is demonic. I am very saddened to say, the worst is in front of us and there is no way to avoid it.

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    • Hi Walt. Good to hear from you and you’re welcome.

      You’re so right the Traitor In Chief hates our country and will do all he can to destroy it. We are overrun with pure evil in powerful positions and right now our nation is paying a serious price. I’m also saddened the worst is yet to come. Especially if Hillery gets elected. I believe she’s worse than Obama.

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  2. Excellent Dave, nasty enough of a program to do but then to circumvent Congress or any others has been a bad pattern for Obama. So there he and they go again. Good and timely though bad news, as usual. He’s been pushing past his limits for some time.

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    • Thanks Bull. You’re so right. The Usurper In Chief certainly has no problem ignoring our constitution or current laws. Barry doesn’t even listen to the SUPREMES regarding new law, if he doesn’t like their ruling. EPA comes to mind. He’s turning our country upside down using executive orders and congress doesn’t do crap. Soebarkah is a rabid, commie dog running loose and we keep getting biten.

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    • peppermintfarm said:

      And Bull Kerry went to the UN before the Congress regarding that Iran Agreement.

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      • Pepp, that really ticked me off. They ran as fast as they could. All his maneuvers seem to have the same M/O. Don’t allow the people to see it.

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        • peppermintfarm said:

          Bull, it ticked me off too. Another of those silent screams on my part. Oh no don’t let the people see their machinations. Traitors!

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  3. The next step to it is if he can just keep the press or people from talking about it.

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    • If the liberal logic media are forced into talking about it, they’ll use their good ole propoganda ploy to get all the sheep to buy into this. Those retards are never going to acknowledge the fact stricter gun control is not going work. Cities like Chicago and New York City are not doing well with their ridiculous gun control laws. But the commie media will keep on spilling the lies about it.

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      • willibeaux said:

        Yo ‘Rave! This is zero’s last goal for completing his “fundamentally transforming America”.
        Confiscate our weapons beginning with the SS recipients.

        If he is successful (which he won’t be) he thinks he can rule us like a dictator. Of course this peckerhead already thinks he can by bypassing Congress with EOs and his phone and pen.

        What he may not realize is there multi millions of hunters in the country who will never cooperate and all hell will break loose. Katy bar the door.

        Thanks for your fine essay.

        oohrah!! 🙂

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        • Hey Willi. Great to hear from you and thanks for the compliment.

          The “peckerhead”…LOL…will (I believe) have to use EO’s in attempt to pull off the grand commie plan. I agree with you he will not be successful. Too many (even a lot of those that use that crazy liberal logic) enjoy their guns.

          The doodoo prez is stepping in poopoo on this one. 😀

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        • peppermintfarm said:

          Wow, Willi, was that the SPOOK calling O a peckerhead? LOL! You’re cracking me up.

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    • peppermintfarm said:

      Well we know he has the press in his pocket but the people are talking. Not that he cares, the bastard.

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  4. For now just those who can’t manage their own affairs; he needs to take a look at all the welfare recipients who depend on taxpayers – they evidently can’t handle their affairs…we all know that he won’t stop with these Medicare recipients – soon all Medicare recipients have their guns removed. Will this start the revolution? Nothing has yet – so this probably won’t either – but when it starts, my hubby and I will be there..

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    • Hi Donna. Great to hear from you. You sure make a great point about welfare recipients! Barry won’t touch them though, because that’s part of commies dependable voting bloc.

      I’d like to think if there’s one thing that will push citizens over the edge, it is killing the second amendent. We have the right to own and love our guns.

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    • peppermintfarm said:

      Donna,

      He needs to take a look at the illegals in here with guns besides the welfare parasites including himself.

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      • Davetherave said:

        Pepp, isn’t illegals and welfare parasites the same thing??? Synonym anyone…

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        • peppermintfarm said:

          No not really in some cases. Some ppl on welfare are black mothers whose husbands ran out on them. They didn’t break into this country. Illegals break in and get their bennies, truly parasites of course.

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          • You’re right of course. I was attempting to make a connection (me no do so well though) illegals are getting gov freebies and that makes “them” welfare parasites.

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          • peppermintfarm said:

            I understand where you were going with your comment. Of course illegals are parasites. Very angry our tax dollars go to these people who broke into our country.

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    • Bob Roller said:

      Welfare in many cases is nothing but a retirement plan for twenty year olds.We have them in this area and now they are frequenting parking lots where “dollar”stores are located and they try to get money with lies like “My car is out of gas” or similar BS. I told one of them that was starting to become aggressive that I traveled on a debit card and the pin # was 44 S&W Special which was what I was carrying that day.
      A number of SS recipients are mentally fogged but the family members aren’t and unless they are felons (convicted)they should keep the guns. I draw SS and am almost 80 but my mind works fine and I am VERY capable in money management.
      The kleptocracy can’t balance the national budget so how and where do they get the right to tell me or any other geezer we can’t have a gun. Spread the word,these SOB’s are afraid of the Americans with guns hidden among the population.

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      • Hi Bob. Great comment!

        You make excellent points: the abusers of SS as a retirement plan, there are some on SS that shouldn’t have a gun, family members being left alone and the blatant abuse the gov ignores.

        kleptocracy is the perfect term for these commies. If someone ran a business so far into the red like our gov, they’d be fired within a week!

        Unregistered guns does create a big problem for the commies and that’s a very good thing.

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  5. peppermintfarm said:

    Hi DavetheRave,

    Of course I have no idea who you are or how you got on here posting an article again. But I will comment anyway against my better judgment.

    What a sneak you are! LOL!

    Good topic you chose however. The Peckerhead or Dickhead or Copperhead, whichever one chosen for the Grand Mufti, he is going to do everything he can for his final act, to disarm the nation.

    And if he doesn’t do it, Hillary will.

    IMHO I think no matter how he goes about it, it’s not going to work. The 2nd Amendment is sacred to Americans. Once he goes about disarming everyone or tries I should say, he is going to be goat meat. And he can join his Muzzie buddies meeting his 72 virgins I would imagine.

    If I were him I’d want to be safe. He does have SS surrounding him with guns. Does he want to disarm them too? Some of them are ex-military. Do any of them have things in their past like PTSD, treated for it, or some other type of counseling like having to see a shrink because they are going nuts trying to defend him and his family?

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    • Davetherave said:

      Hi Peppermintfarm. I’m a minion of the SPOOK sent by willibeaux. You crack me up!!

      Yeah that somethinghead wants his real legacy to be the downfall our nation. Getting all the guns would help, but that’s not going to happen. Barry is p*ssing in the wind with this one.

      He sure will get his 72 virgins and I’d bet they’ll all be surrounded by rainbows with ballons on their heads! 😀

      Seriously though folks, great point about all the secret service that protect him with guns. They’d have to suffer from PTSD protecting the Commie Clux Clan.

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      • peppermintfarm said:

        Oh so the SPOOK sent you here eh? That guy is getting insidious.

        He’s not getting our guns because once the economy crashes we all need them to ward off the parasites who don’t have food, water and blankies.

        I would definitely think the SS guys would all have a horrible case of PTSD and have nightmares for the rest of their lives after dealing with him and the Mooch. Can you imagine? Panic attacks anyone?

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        • Oh good Lord; being a slave of Moochelle has to be at least ten times worse than protecting Barry,

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          • peppermintfarm said:

            Can you imagine how horrible that is?

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          • I really can’t Pepp, but I can try to guess. I had a really bad dry socket years ago. Of course it hit me on the weekend, so couldn’t see the dentist till Monday. Two days of pure living hell, but I’d go through that again not to be around Moochelle…

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          • peppermintfarm said:

            Dave had dry socket too. Wow, that’s really bad to be in that pain rather than be around Moochie.

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      • Dave, I hope the spook is on this cause we need all the help we can get for Barry’s final act. Maybe he is doing it how they play politics, group by group. One at a time. He already has half their base locked up so take on one group move to the next . (I think Hitler knew that)

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      • willibeaux said:

        Yo ‘rave! Pepp! Bull! etal! The SPOOK and I are working on a plan to rattle the cages at Disneyland on the Potomac. When we are through, the attempts to confiscate guns from SSI recipients will backfire and the bureaucrats will think someone dumped a fresh pile of horse manure on them. Pepp do you remember what you and the ‘awk (rest his soul) did to the Blackshirts? This will make that caper look like a Sunday School picnic. 🙂

        oohrah! 🙂

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