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Getting Rid of God

Just when you think the war on religious freedom can’t get worse, there are more news about this topic.

Our country was founded on Christian/Judea religions and now the Pentagon is going to court martial those in uniform who share their faith.

This article is on Breitbart.

The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: “Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense…Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis…”.

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military. 

So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime–possibly resulting in imprisonment–for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)–whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.

This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.

In response to the Pentagon’s plans, retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), said on Fox & Friends Wednesday morning:

It’s a matter of what do they mean by “proselytizing.” …I think they’ve got their definitions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.”

At this site below you can sign a petition to stop this war against faith.  They already have over 40,000 signatures in a very short time.  I would urge everyone to sign the petition who believes our military deserve the benefits from chaplains for support and comfort.  I find this banning of God for the military another act of horror of this administration.  We need God in our lives and for soldiers under battle weariness and seeing the deaths of their fellow soldiers, they need this.  We’ve always had chaplains who served in this capacity to help men who are in need of this service through our entire history of this country.

http://www.frc.org/alert/pentagon-consultant-no-gospel-witness-for-chaplains

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/01/Breaking-Pentagon-Confirms-Will-Court-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith

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Comments on: "Getting Rid of God" (32)

  1. I commented on this on another post but here’s my 2 cents:
    For about as long as I can remember the left has been attacking Christainity. And for about as long as I can remember the Christain churches have been silent. Attacks on
    Prayer in school. Silence from church.
    Prayer at sporting events. Silence.
    Attack on religious quotes at the court house. Silence.
    Attack on Christmas and other religious displays. Silence.
    It seems the only thing the church can do is encourage church attendance and tithing.
    Our very way of Christain life is being dismantled by such a minority few yet there is no defense from the Chrisain establishment.
    Is it any wnder church attendance is a pitance of what it was in the ’40’s and ’50’s?

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    • Buck,

      Your points well taken. The religious community needs to rise up against this.
      I do know of one instance where people did and that was right here in Kentucky. We have a democrat governor and about 3 yrs ago he banned Christmas Nativity scene in front of the capitol. The KY citizens came out in droves and protested all night. The Nativity Scene went right back up the following morning. People have to protest this stuff when it happens and stop being afraid of the ACLU. But, of course it’s Bible belt country here so the governor didn’t stand a chance in hell.

      btw,Buck did you sign the petition? It’s better than doing nothing.

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  2. Good post. Too bad it is such a pisser we even have to bring it up. But, thanks to stupid guilty white liberals, a complicit media and an opposition party that will NOT oppose, here we are. Buck sums it well.

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    • clyde,

      “Evil exists when good men do nothing”. Yes, Buck made good points but did you sign the petition. It is DOING something. It may seem ridiculous to keep signing petitions but if everyone thinks “there is nothing that can be done”, nothing will ever get done. It’s going to take We the People to do the job. And yeah, it sucks.

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  3. Gar Swaffar said:

    Without Saints in my path while in the USN, I might still be a heathen. And according to some, I still am anyway.

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    • Gar,

      I know you are not a heathen of course. Who cares what other people think anyway about you? Did you sign the petition?

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      • Gar Swaffar said:

        Yes I did, I also sent an email to the SecNav Ray Mabus, I’m certain HE thinks I’m a heathen now.

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        • Gar,

          Thank you so much for signing the petition. And writing SecNav Mabus. So what if he thinks your are a heathen. That is his stupid problem.

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  4. This is like disgusting on steroids. Why not go for both religious freedom and freedom of speech? This is about the worst thing they ever did. Tying chaplains tongues was bad enough.

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    • Bull,

      You said it. On steroids they are. I think they are going after both, freedom of speech and religion. I can see the slippery slope here of when the government starts banning churches and closing them down just like Stalin did in Russia. Our freedom of speech is getting worked down already with all this PC bull they throw on us and collecting everything we say and putting it all into that new humongous facility out in Utah. We can’t say or do a thing that the feds don’t know. It’s intimidating to say the least. They will have to come arrest me before I shut up.

      Oh and the reason the King will shut down our Christian churches will because “it upsets the Muslims”. Want to make a bet?

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  5. goshawk3 said:

    Good find Pepp,

    This a bunch of crap! First they want Gay’s in the military, now they’re trying to move religion out! You bet I signed the petition. I will stand with Gen. Boykin no matter what!

    “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: it’s patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” —Joseph Stalin

    It looks like Ovomit is following his Communist education perfectly! He’s well on his way of doing all three!

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    • Hawk,

      Yes it is a bunch of crap and the King is doing everything he can to tear down the moral fiber of our country. It disturbs me so much.

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  6. This is so disturbing, in so many ways. I can’t even fathom that this would be an issue, ESPECIALLY in the Military. Obviously the asshats behind this haven’t spent time dodging enemy fire, or praying that your buddy who just got hit doesn’t die.
    I can’t imagine how alone and helpless I would have felt in ‘Nam if I didn’t have a chaplain near me, and God even nearer.

    BTW : The 40,000 signatures has increased a bit. I was # 126,367 !

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    • Terry,

      it is disturbing to me too as there are so many military in my family mostly Catholics. I can barely fathom this either and it sickens me to the core. I thought I’d have a heart attack when I read this.

      The asshats behind this don’t give a rat’s behind about these soldiers. I can see why you feel the way you do having served in Nam as my brother did.

      Can you imagine the soldiers not being able to pray over one of their brothers in arms? it is unbelievable to me! Of course you would have felt helpless without God or the chaplains. They are there to support, solace and give comfort and prayers for the troops. To actually court martial a man for praying with his own brothers in battle is enough to make me go screaming into the night.

      And when will they ban prayer from all citizens in this country and Christian churches so “not to offend the Muslims” would be the reasoning behind that.

      Thanks for signing the petition and I’m so overjoyed to hear there are now #126,367. I think this petition is going to keep going because when something so heinous is being done to our military so many of us get really pissed off.

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      • goshawk3 said:

        Yeah Pepp,

        They will probably close all Christian church’s and leave all the Islamic mosques alone. Ha! Knowing Ovomit he would probably provide military protection for the mosques!

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        • Gos,

          Oh, I can see that right now. We can’t have any backlash against the Muslims of course as the King states. So yes he’d fortify their mosques with everything available to him while our Christian churches get shut down. I just read yesterday that the Baptists are now on the terrorist list as other religions have been put there. It also said any type of fundamental religion is a terrorist group as well.

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  7. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”. The job of the executive branchj is to protect and support the Constitution first and then second to execute the laws that Congress passes. Using those restrictions, there is no leeway that allows the miltary to do this and not be in violation of the Consitution and commiting treason against America.

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  8. The count on the petition is up to 128,726 now. Let’s keep it going.
    Please pass the link to the petition to everyone you know who believes in God and that our military should not be refrained from their rights.
    Thanks everyone!

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  9. I was contacted by my sister yesterday. One of my nephews (a combat medic, 2 tours in Iraq and 1 tour in Afghanistan) is getting out of the military because of this.

    Perhaps this is what O’Vomit wants, to “weed” the US military of everyone who would probably disobey orders to fire on US civilians.

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    • goshawk3 said:

      Grey,

      I would imagine that might be the case with many of our guys. Out of curiosity I wondered if the rule would also apply to Muslims in the military. I believed they would be exempt as they are in our schools etc, So I did a little research and came up with this;

      From the Fatwa Department Research Committee – chaired by Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhâb al-Turayrî (Islamic law)

      “If joining the military service will prevent you from prayers or compel you to constantly delay your prayers until the time has passed, then you may not voluntarily join the military. The same can be said if joining the military will require from you engaging in sinful, immoral acts..Otherwise, you may join the military service.”

      So, evidently THEY will be allowed to pray or they MUST get out!
      The site below is all Islam. Interesting.

      http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1853

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    • Grey,

      I think you are dead on about your analysis of what the King wants. He wants soldiers with no moral compass so he can get them to fire on us. It makes perfect sense. He’s already gotten rid of high ranking officers who have refused to fire on American citizens. And thank you once again for passing it along to your buddies.

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  10. Just Gene said:

    Pepp – Did you catch my THOUGHTS on silent scream – a one world government must indoctrinate the kids to believe they belong to the state – religion is in their way – ergo – destroy religion – but endorse a pseudo religion that is a front for political control.
    luvya

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    • Hi Gene,

      Yes, I did catch your thoughts on silent scream. Thanks so much for sending it forward. Your take on this latest is so right. And I’ve had a bunch of silent screams too. I was so boiling over last night it had me shaking. This is so outrageous and the pentagone must be filled with commies too, to go along with this. Dempsey is a jackass. And Hagel.

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  11. I think its stupid

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    • Susie,

      It’s stupid, but it’s also dangerous. I have this feeling the King wants to drum out of the military Christians and have only those who have no faith and no moral compass who would fire on American citizens. Guys who have now heard of this won’t go into the military and those in are getting out.

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  12. That POS is making everything abnormal the new norm. He absolutely makes me sick. I just wish he would be ousted.

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    • Donna,

      He’s abnormal so we can expect abnormal things from him. I wish he was ousted too, but I’m afraid Congress will do nothing as usual.

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