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Some news/opinion played a factor in ’08.

One thing I know is one of the last sources I will trust in the 2012 election cabal is Bill O’Reilly. He carefully tried to weave his hand into the 08 election – all things relevant to Bill – dismissing much of the concerns about Obama, in his not so subtle way.

Remember the coverage leading up to the election; how it was far short of the scrutiny it should have given to Obama? Well, it even fell short from the so-called right of what should have been prima facie case against Obama. One was the O’Reilly Factor. This surrounded the final debate.

There was O’reilly’s pre-debate talking point – er counseling McCain

O October 15, 08; pre-debate)


Then The O’Reilly Factor (10-16-08).

  Post-debate joust with Laura Ingraham


In the first one, O’Reilly cleverly compared Bill Ayers to the “villains” on Wall Street, and advised McCain to concentrate on those Wall St villains of disdain, instead of Bill Ayers type connections to Obama.

Now, as it turns out, all those connections were extremely foretelling of the then would-be president – Dictator extraordinaire. They all screamed to be explored, even while O’Reilly dismissed them as practically irrelevant to the present election. Now look at all his appointments and Czars since. It was not brain science.

But his campaign did something a month earlier with Bill’s September interview of Obama.  While O’Reilly was slowly making all these gestures, even excuses, for Obama, the campaign at large had labeled Bill his chief persistent critic. So when the interview with Bill finally took place, he appeared to be sitting down with his toughest critic – which he wasn’t. By then, O’Reilly was so compromised he was only a shade away from what the mainstream media was doing for Obama in handing him the election.  In the end, the perception supposedly was that Obama looked down the nose of his toughest critics and refuted the case against him, which he never did. (And certainly not through Bill O)

*And here is a summary of how that interview went down in negotiation.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/bill-oreilly-interviews-obama-fox-news-obama-met-with-fox-news-executives-washington-post-sept-2-2008/

Then in the latter exchange with Laura Ingraham, it was clear Bill was looking to grant Obama as wide of berth as possible. He used words like “consistent” to describe him. (the campaign’s own code words) And he replied to Laura’s charge about Obama that they ‘aren’t going to do any of that’, and totally dismissed the concerns.

In both of those clips I don’t think “the spin” ever left the room.

So this time when O’Reilly starts spouting his advice on what Romney should do, I hope they run the other way. The kinder, gentler p/c approach should be dead as a doornail.

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Comments on: "Where the Spin Forgot to Stop by PrivateBullRight" (66)

  1. PBR,

    Great post. I recall OR’s delicacy towards the Fraud and how he would not touch certain subjects regarding the Fraud. He made me very angry during the Bush/Kerry race where he would not allow any of the Swift Boat guys come on his show to tell their stories about the traitor Kerry. Their book was all documented too. But, oh no, OR wouldn’t have those “liars’ on his show. I stopped watching him at that time.

    Then when this Fraud came on the scene I noticed how he seemed to kowtow to this idiot just so he could get an exclusive interview which amounted to a big nothing. I recall the Liar in Chief pointing his finger in OR’s face many times during the interview. I wondered just who was interviewing who.

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    • privbullright said:

      Pepp,
      Thanks. Beautifully put. I had forgotten about the swiftboaters getting “swiftboated” from the NO Spin Zone. Anything for the exclusive, makes my head spin. All hype to boost the ratings. Anything for the ratings…but he’s looking out for the folks? (well, his way…)

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      • PBR,

        I can barely stand to watch OR any more. In fact, the Hawk and I are now watching Gerri Wilis at 8pm on the Fox Business Channel instead. I’ve had about enough of OR’s hypocrisy.
        The only folks he’s looking out for is himself IMHO. Yeah, anything for ratings and when it’s the special months where ratings are looked at he never fails to have some woman with “skin” showing. I think to myself for bloody sake, OR, how far do you have to stoop? Doesn’t he have good enough ratings without going into the gutter?

        And yeah, it was real ugly what he did with those Swift Boat guys. He never even gave them a chance to tell their story before he labeled them liars.

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    • privbullright said:

      Pepp, and that interview struck me to how much they were a like. Besides it went way light on Obama. Here were two gigantic egos. Only Bill showed his inflated ego went to a fault that he would compromise for the sake of it. So Odingo beat him in that department.

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  2. willibeaux said:

    Bull! Great article on phony Bill. I think he woke up one morning with a horse’s head in his bed. The Chicago Mafia strikes again.

    What say you Mrs. Pepper’awk?

    ‘ooRah! 😉

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    • Willibeaux,

      Yes, I do believe that most of the so called “journalists” and talking show hosts have been threatened in one way or another. It’s very possible OR had a horse’s head in his bed. I do know that Media Matters watches him every night (him and Sean Hannity) and then they have clips of them speaking they put up on their web site. Of course, they are altered so they are out of context to make both OR and Hannity look like they said something they didn’t. And Soros threatened Fox, had Glenn Beck removed and Eric Bolling’s show. Now what the hey does Soros have on Fox that they crumble to Soros?

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    • privbullright said:

      Willi, LMAO thanks … and we got Gangster Government.

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      • PBR,

        That’s right, the Gangster Government Enterprise. Not for us but for them in government. Have you ever seen a president with more scandals hanging over his head than this one? And it all gets shoved under the carpet.

        Now we have that GSE scandal and the SS cavorting with prostitutes in Columbia. I’ve never heard a breath of scandal in regard to the SS until now. I told the Hawk I have to wonder if these SS guys are sick to death of protecting a Fraud, not a president and they just went off the deep end. Or because there is so much scandal at the top, it’s rolled all the way down hill to the SS.

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        • Davetherave said:

          Willi my man! Now that is friggin hilarious…ROTFLMAO!

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        • privbullright said:

          Pepp, I think its the KC and the Sunshine Band government.
          GSA- do a little dance
          SService – make a little love
          Hillary clinton – getting down tonight

          The whole thing is like “Party on. Scandal? What scandal?” 24/7 party. Its just possible Obama reserved his judgement on SS to ‘if true, I’ll be angry’ because they could have some intel on him. It would be nice if someone spilled his beans and arugula. We haven’t seen anything like this, he has scandals going off everywhere at the same time. He and his minions ignore it. They called fast and furious a “manufactured scandal”. Just Gangster Government business as usual.

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  3. Oh, PBR, I forgot to tell you I heard a promo for OR last night and it said, “possible fraudulent information in Fast and Furious”. I asked the Hawk, “what the hell, is OR just now seeing there is something wrong with Fast and Furious? It took him this long to see it’s another scam on the American people to take their guns away? Geesh, where has OR been?

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    • privbullright said:

      Pepp, You slay me. Now how do you suppose they are just now asking the big question: “does the story has legs” or if its really a big story? Hint: don’t wait for lamestream’s lead. And it was strange when Mike Wallace confronted the O-meister about supporting gun control Bill made no bones about it. I guess one gets that great wisdom from poli-science in Ha’vad. And he’d be the first to say Zero has no agenda against guns. Where indeed has he been? But maybe he should check Angelina Jolie about it first.

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      • PBR,

        OR is in love with Lady Gaga right now. I do believe he’s off his rocker. I think he spends too much time looking at the Gaga to find time to really delve into serious issues these days. And I asked the Hawk if he thought perhaps that OR has developed Alzheimers since he seems to be waaaaaaaaay behind on stories of great importance.

        Right, check with Angelina first or Lady Gaga.

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        • privbullright said:

          Pepp, you said it…
          Its entertainment tonight. I guess he feels we are soo sick of politics and “the [little] folks” don’t grasp reality …so ligten it up, entertain them with something they know and care about. Not that I need to give him any ideas. Maybe he and Gaga can do a road show, like “The Mish and Mash Tour”. (leave the truth up to those who understand it) Pardon my projected condescension. Besides, Gaga has a lot of material to work with. 🙂

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        • privbullright said:

          BTW: I forgot, I haven’t heard him use the phrase “your humble correspondent” lately. Neither of which is true.

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  4. thedrpete said:

    Bill O’Reilly and Shep Smith are FNC jerks, but very-watched jerks. Geraldo Rivera, ditto. I haven’t tuned in to any of them in a very very long time.

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    • privbullright said:

      Well, with all the info on the internet we can at least see it more as the entertainment it has become than “news”. Geraldo can make my veins pop right out.

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  5. Excellent post on a guy who is more full of shit than a Christmas Goose. I gave up on O’Reilly YEARS ago. Talk about a windbag. They could harness this asshat to run 20 windmills.

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    • privbullright said:

      Clyde, Great comment. But how do you really feel? LOL Wind energy, eh? Only if he can determine which way it’s blowing long enough. I guess the spin stopped there long ago. Sorry I dredged up disturbing memories. 🙂

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    • Davetherave said:

      Shit clyde,

      LMAO!! You’re the only one on here that can make my comments look politically correct! You’re hilarious…

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  6. Spin is as spin does. O’Reilly is not one of the shows I watch.

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  7. Gar Swaffar said:

    Billy’s just another chump, afraid to sneeze for fear of being called racist.

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    • privbullright said:

      Gar, LOL. That I totally agree. Damage of reputation is paramount. It reminds me of the appeasement policy of Obastid.

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    • Gar,

      Totally agree with you about OR. He seems to be afraid of his own shadow these days. He certainly does not report well on all the Fraud’s scandals.

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  8. Gray Ghost (Mississippi) said:

    I have not watched Bill O’Reilly for at least 10 years. I stopped watching him sometime around 2002, when I started noticing that he was placing a “spin” on what he said. I figure that was of the following is true:

    1. He is a standard New England right-leaning Moderate. (I met his type when I lived in Schenectady, NY.). Most of them do not want to do much more than complain. They are easily “scared” by those with power.

    2. He was “bought off” by the federal government sometime in the late 1990’s. If so, it doesn’t matter who is in charge (R or D). He acts like a “critic”, but only as far as necessary to try to show that he is a “watchdog”.

    I also agree with Gar Swaffer (i.e., afraid to sneeze for fear of being called a racist).

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    • privbullright said:

      Gray, perfect you said it all. I’ve run across lots of those. I think both of them fit well. Plus, some extreme self-promotion at all costs there. When you compare wall streeters to Ayers it sort of looses something. And, to follow his advice, if one runs against Wall St villains only, they wouldn’t be running against Comrade Obama. And he must have skipped the course on Chicago politics.

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  9. I haven’t considered O’Reilly ‘fair and balanced’ since I don’t know when; maybe never.

    I gave up on watching him because it was so frustrating trying to listen to what his guests had to say between his interruptions, which are constant and beyond annoying.

    His attempt at appearing to sit on the fence also fail. It’s one thing to give someone the benefit of the doubt; it’s another to ignore and deny the obvious.

    As far as him giving Romney advice, I would suggest that Romney check O’Reilly’s track record on ‘advice giving’ before taking any. Look how well McCain did by NOT going nuclear.

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    • privbullright said:

      Paulie, thanks for the comment. Wow unbalanced would fit. That is the worst: A great guest comes on, which he uses to promote the show, then cut it to pieces like you can’t help yourself. Then he justifies it. I noticed he has Mary Katherine Ham on and then cuts her off. Juan Williams, not so much. He riminds me of a typical lib interupting every point. Then when its a lib, he lets them ramble through their talking points. That shows he is fair?

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    • privbullright said:

      Paulie,
      Yes, you point out the other problem. He called it “scorched earth”, yada, yada. Since when is going after him on facts and his trail of communist ties scorched earth? And his own words? What record he did have (that he couldn’t cover) and his own words are scorched earth? The guy tells us he sought out radical Marxists, admits being an understudy of Wright as his mentor, wanted to disassociate with his white mother, calls his grandmother a typical white person, and says he wants to transform America. Obastid sees that as “courage and conviction”; but conservatives challenging him on it have a scorched earth agenda? Obama said: “”Being against (President) Bush is easy. The question is not what are you against, but, what are you for?” Obastid let us know what he was for. He demonized and ran against Bush, but Bill calls conservatives scorched earthers? Pulease.

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    • Paulie,

      That’s right, another thing about the OR. He interrupts his guests so much they usually can’t get in a word edgewise. Especially when he has the two lawyers on, usually Kimberly Guilfoyle and Lis Weil. They can’t even give their “attorney” opinion because he has so much to say. It’s obnoxious and I would not even appear with him doing that. It’s worthles.

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      • Pepp, I did notice one time recently when I somewhat accidentally turned on his program that he had Charles Krauthammer on and he didn’t DARE interrupt him. I found that very telling.

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        • Paulie,

          Yeah, I think I saw that one too. I tuned in specifically to see Charles and how OR would handle him. Otherwise I would not have watched it. It was very telling as you stated. If we watch something at 8pm, we watch Gerri Willis on the Fox Business channel. Much better show and questions and Gerri allows her guests to talk.

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          • privbullright said:

            Pepp Paulie, Allowing the guests to talk, what a refreshing concept. Bill should try that. 🙂 There is someone he won’t interrupt?-Who knew? He’d be talking over St Peter at the gate.

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  10. Davetherave said:

    Good post bull! Billy O’ in my opinion was smart enough to see what was coming down the road and knew better than to buck the gangster Obamastalin. Billy makes way too much damn money with his popularity to want and disturb that cash flow. Billy boy is a piece of shit as far as I’m concerned! He’s more than willing to flex his muscles when against someone he knows he can run over top of, but his belly sinks to the ground when he runs into someone that can do him damage. His biggest charactor flaw is he has no charactor.

    I like Gray’s description of Billy boy being your usual New England moderate. The only thing that is conservative about Billy boy is probably how much he tips for a good meal…

    Gar also nailed it as usual with his “sneeze” comment, which of course has me LMFAO!

    And good ole clye? Well, what I can say. I do so love his eff’ing hilarious comments!

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    • privbullright said:

      Thanks Dave, I was hoping you could offer a political correct view…LOL.(Hell would freeze over first) I agree, you know he is sort of the Michael Medved of prime time. He once said he would not use his show just to pimp his book cause that wouldn’t be right. (paraphrased of course) I rest my case.

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      • Davetherave said:

        Hey bull, in my dictionary PC=Pansyass Comment. I’m getting the impression you’re thinking I’m pretty straight forward. eh? 🙂

        Oh no; Billy boy would never use his platform to promote his books. I don’t know about him pimping his book, but he sure in the hell doesn’t mind acting like a whore to sell it…

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        • privbullright said:

          Ha ha LMAO… “straight forward”, now that’s exactly what I was thinking. But then we’re all staight up racists according to the left. 🙂

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          • Davetherave said:

            Yeah; I be one of dem Bible clinching, gun toating and what ever else in the hell they called us. As Willi always tell me to do I wear my redneck badge with honor!

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  11. privbullright said:

    Dave, I just had to add a thought to your “Divorcing Obama” piece.

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  12. Davetherave said:

    check this out bull.

    A good ole retired Marine buddy of mine wrote me this the other day and I cracked up:

    He wrote:

    If con is the opposite of pro, then is Congress the opposite of Progress?

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  13. goshawk3 said:

    Great post bullright! And I agree with all the comments. Nothing I can add you guys have it covered.

    I will mention though, OR has been writing a Sunday column on Townhall for awhile, I read a couple of them and they’re as bad as his show. Most of what he writes is ‘after the fact’ useless crap. And all the commenter’s agree with all ya all,

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    • privbullright said:

      Goshawk, thanks, I appreciate the comments. Yea his columns are a little straining to put it mildly. Like Gray Ghost put it, that Northeast Ha’vad part manages to scream at you no matter what topic. Thanks, now at least a guy knows if he is he is in the right ballpark at some point. I think many conservatives have moved on. I’d like to hear more from the better people he has on than his bloviating. And I can see why some won’t do his show. There’s also this fun and game ambiance or body language stuff on his show that chases people away. His books may be different but the show is overrated, IMHO. Why libs have such harsh reaction to him I don’t know. (he plays right up their alley.) Then he poles fun at Stossel, Beck, or the Judge as if they are simpletons or comics. One point to him though for taking on Barney Fwank a time or two.

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  14. privbullright said:

    Sometimes I flip through to see what the commies are saying. They tell us. Last night Ed Shultz was setting the table to fillet Ted Nugent and tie it to their phony war on women propaganda. (using some connection to Romney) So that’s their talking points for the next week — outside Romney’s dog they’re obsessed with. Imagine that, Shultz ambushing Nugent over women? The great pimp of liberaldom is really going there.

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    • PBR,

      I flipped around last night too for the hell of it. Occasionally I like to see what Mr. Ed is saying. For bloody sake, all this talk about Romney’s dog and Ted Nugent. He didn’t say anything that was threatening IMHO. But, then again, I liked what he said as a few others I’m sure have thought the same thing. But Ted could explain away what he said easily enough. The SS are going to investigate Nugent. He’s planning a bbq for them when they come to talk to him. Hilarious.

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      • privbullright said:

        Pepp,
        AH YES, SS visiting Nug, he might enlighten them. Nothing there was that bad or over the top. Certainly not censorable. Just showed me how anxious they are to fabricate anything to fit their narrative. For Pete’s sake, first the elevator in Mitt’s garage, then the dog, now Nugent’s witty critique is fodder for leftists. (and they’re betting all their chips on this one) This guy spews at Laura Ingraham…which makes him a great judge. But of course he missed the mark, because he should have targeted someone who cares. Dumb. LOL

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        • PBR,

          Mr. Ed is dumber than hell, but he thinks he’s a real big shot. He was saying last night that his radio talk show is in the top 5 shows. Rush was #1 and of course he had to make some asinine comment about Rush being able to say anything and stay on the airwaves. As if Mr. Ed is so pure!!!! He vents and goes crazy almost every night from what I can tell. Hannity often plays segments when he does the Media Mash with Brent Bozell.

          They (the left) will try to make a mountain out of any mole hill like Romney’s dog to keep the subject off and away from the Great Failure, our Liar in Chief.

          I really liked what Ted said. I know there are tons of people who feel the same way he does.

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          • Terrible Ted ought to invite even-more-Terrible Ed on a hunting trip with he and Cheney.

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          • privbullright said:

            Clyde LMAO you’re brilliant.

            Pepp, I’m sure Ted has a lot of support. How is he #5? Scary. Ed’s got some cat scratch fever. They play the game “do you condmemn those remarks?” but I hear crickets over psycho Ed. But they’ll call Rush the de facto head of the Republican party. They don’t even care that everyone knows its class warfare and hypocrisy.

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      • privbullright said:

        I just wonder why SS hasn’t had a sit down w/ Schultz. None of them said boo about Maher, a big donor — a guy who makes a living insulting women. No, the left is worried about Nug and Sarah Palin or Bachmann. (got to keep their eyes on them) Wait… Sarah and Bachmann are women, and the target of their own venom. That’s okay. It does remind me, now that you mention it, is Obastid going to use SS as his personal tool? He politicized every other part of the administration.

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        • PBR,

          They are nothing but hypocrites. They attack any conservative woman in the most vile manner. It’s sickening. They’ll never say anything about Maher, the most disgusting person on TV with the things he says. But, let a conservative say one thing and they hit them with baseball bats of crap.

          Since the Liar in Chief makes everything personal and a campaign tool, I imagine he would use the SS if they weren’t in so much embarrassment right now. Even they can’t stay good under this filthy Liar we have as a prez. Not mine however. I don’t recognize him as a president.

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  15. privbullright said:

    Naturally, I just saw on TH where humble Bill and Hannity are settling their contracts. Just a blurb there with no details, but judging from the shows, Hannity is out front on coverage.(not quite in the ratings.) He’s at least trying to vet the Occupier-in-Chief. People are mixed over Bill and many seem to buy that he just interupts to keep the spin out. If Shep’s contract was any indication, it was a whopper. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/elisabethmeinecke/2012/04/18/townhall_confirms_deadline_report_hannity_and_oreilly_ready_to_close_new_deals_with_fox_news

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  16. PBR,

    I didn’t know their contracts were online. Interesting.

    At least Hannity is trying to vet the Liar in Chief, but he never touches certain subjects (by order of Soros) I’m sure. I never watch Shep Smith, he’s an ahole.

    And I don’t bother with OR anymore. I will watch it when Laura Ingraham hosts the show when Bill is gone. Bill is so annoying with that interruption addiction he has. Why bother having guests if you don’t let them speak?

    Gerri Willis on Fox Business News has good stuff and she allows people to talk.

    I’m going to check that link to see what’s up.

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